I know this is from 5 years ago but what the hell why do you use your STARTER as an HM slave. Gen 1: Product of genetic engineering, not really the embodiment of any natural or cosmic concepts but really good at fighting and telekinetically ragdolling things. HM Locations. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail folders-Gen 1 Attackdex-Gen 2 Attackdex-Gen 3 Attackdex-Gen 4 Attackdex-Gen 5 Attackdex-Gen 6 Attackdex-Gen 7 Attackdex-Gen 8 Attackdex-Gen 9 Attackdex; ItemDex; Pokéarth; Abilitydex; Spin-Off Pokédex;. Click on the generation numbers at the top to see transfer-only moves for other generations. The Pokémon can be. The only games I've ever used a 6-man team on before are Gen 1, in which the only required HMs are actually not that bad (Surf and Strength, also Cut but it's only required early on, before I've collected all 6 members). I mainly made this topic to benefit would be searchers when the games come. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. : r/pokemon. Tempo Owner Karma: 24 Offline Gender:. imgur. I've never had a pokemon with only HM moves. All Grass (and perhaps Steel) types in your party can now cut down trees. Answers. A New HM System: Have access to all of your favourite HMs without the hassle of carrying HM slaves! As long as your Pokemon can learn an HM, they will be able to use it in the overworld. Sandshrew is now part of the Onix tail. Ziggy is the best for the early game, other than him I'd suggest a water type like corphish or tentacool for whirlpool, dive, waterfall and surf. Since generation 1, you have had to use up precious move slots on your Pokemon with HM moves just to get around. TM/HM # Attack Name Type Att. Gen 2. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. Other than that, you need Strength, Surf, Dive, and Fly. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. 01. No matter what Pokémon I have in my party I always like to have all HM's on me at once so that I'm not restricted in any way during gameplay. BtlMaster. The first ds game I remember is diamond so I remember it fondly (played other older ones in a different method). Walrein. :bidoof: Staraptor - Fly. Jothomaster202. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. ago. Bibarel is god tier HM Slave. First, by reducing the number of HM puzzles in Kalos. 5 HM Slaves Required HMs, or Hidden Machines, assisted trainers in accessing new areas. c_s_tadsen ( Expert ) - 2 years ago - report. In Generation 1, Oddish has a base Special stat of 75. faster than enter menu -> pokemon -> scroll to HM slave -> cut every inch of the land. Charizard is a starter HM slave that can also attack. Questions. Nidoran (both male and female) are easy enough to get to level 16, good enough to evolve them to Nidorina/Nidor…Gen I, either of the Nidorans or Sandshrew are awesome for HM slaves. 3 Answers. However, when faced with a grass-type Pokémon, it quickly becomes useless. In-game name: Daniel. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. A pokemon that can learn a couple of the HM moves to make it easier. In my Platinum playthrough, I used the infamous Bibarel which learned all the garbage HMs. As a Pokémon that held prominence in the old-school Mystery Dungeon games, running one of these as your. Was said to be. I use a Munchlax with the pick up ability and the HM moves Strength, Surf, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. At no point was rotom at all relevant to the function of the bike. And even the newest remakes of the gen I games, Pokémon Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee, didn’t bring back HMs. Outside of battle. Flash is a tricky one but you don't need it that often besides caves, so catch a voltorb for it. Do You use HM slaves? Thread starter Typhlosionvsworld; Start date Mar 14, 2011; Status Not open for further replies. I need a HM slave for firered but i dont know which ones can learn 4 hm moves. The main reasons being because most HM moves are not particularly great, and you can't delete an HM without a move deleter. Fun fact: you can have all hm's on just 2 pokemon in gen 3. Trainers need to collect a certain number of Gym Badges in order to qualify for a region's Pokémon League. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. Log in to add games to your lists. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. Sharpedo, as an HM Slave, could learn all the water HMs along with Strength and Rock Smash. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. The dex numbers include the Pokédex region - Ce ntral, Co astal, and Mo untain. I try to balance the HMs and TMs on my team. 1. ago. 7. A Hidden Machine, HM for short, is an item that, like a TM, is used to teach a Pokémon a move. This page lists all the moves that Charmeleon can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. I just need one pokemon that can use Cut, Fly, and any 2 of the other HMs, and the only 2 pokemon that I have seen that can do this are Dragonite, and Charizard. . League Bosses Gen 1-9 Community Tier List (Day 1)(FRLG)(Brock, Misty, Lt. Edit; looking just now at his gen 7 movepool. Hey all, I haven't seen a discussion talking about what pokemon are the best HM slaves for Gen 5. XP. Gen 5 actually requires less HM’s than most games right? Like cut is only required for the dream yard, I think you only need to surf a few times, same with strength, and waterfall I believe you need too. ago. It can learn Cut, Fly, Defog, and Rock Smash. If you're not Surf or Fly (and sometimes Strength and Waterfall), you're going on an HM Slave. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. This keeps you from having less move slots to choose from. HM slave is a term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is not used for battling, but to provide navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machine. Lists of TM, HM, and TR locations. . u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). I also like keeping a staryu/starmie. :bidoof: Roserade - Cut. TM & HM Attacks. For XY Bibarel - Cut, Strength, Surf, Waterfall Talon Flame - Fly. In Sinnoh, Bidoof all the way man. Basically, unless you want to clog your Pokemon with these shit attacks, you have to carry an HM slave which means you only get five "battling" Pokemon, which is also an annoyance. 2 HM Slaves For Both Gen 1 & 2 So I've gotten into Pokemon and i wanted to start from the ground up. HM slaves ftw. GameFreak must really not like water types. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. 5 Strength. 2 Answers. I'd look into who can learn those. It’s an idea that should have led to an incredibly memorable trainer, but for whatever. As the title suggests, post here the Pokemon you find to be good for HM slaves, and for which HMs. Surf and fly are good so I don't care giving it to good Pokemon. Acc. Krabby/Kingler are the best HM mules for use throughout the game, as this time, Krabby can be caught with the Old Rod in locations like Route 40. i got oddish with cut and flash. HM slaves will typically have all four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across. The HMs were once again changed in this generation - HM06 was changed from Whirlpool to Rock Smash, and HM08 Dive was added. It is derived from the fact that Skitty and Wailord can breed in the games despite their massive size difference. I've done a list of all Pokemon that can learn the Gen 5 HMs (using data from Bulbapedia). Young. • 11 yr. 1 Pidove. With that being said, I also don't like to shove all of them onto 2 Pokémon. ~ 12514-29694-66068-57372. The power, accuracy and other information listed below is as it was in the respective games. Where to get it. I also use a Flying Type solely for HM Fly, but since they are part of my team, I train them normally and they don't really count as. I've never used HM slaves. Jothomaster202. 1. I. If Secret Power is used in a building in Generation III, it will display the animation of Strength. It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. it out in Gen 1. Generation IX. P. Ideally I'll get my second Pokemon either before or just after the 1st gym, and my final Pokemon somewhere between the 5th and 7th gyms. Blaine. imgur. The reasoning is that I would never deposit my dearest Dragonite & because of breeding I kinda got attached to my slugma :) 1. I tend to give HM moves that aren't so useful to Pokemon I don't use often, but I still don't treat them like slaves. Who are the best HM slaves in each generation? I'm talking two pokemon who together can learn all the HMs in any given game and generally make life a whole lot easier. Tentacool is easy to find and can use Surf, Dive, and Waterfall (and Cut) torchic373 8 years ago #7. Generation VIII. ago. This allows pokemon that won't have many good STAB moves until they evolve and gain a 2nd type the change to have STAB moves. Sharpedo is a very good HM slave because it can learn a majority of HM's and gives you 2x speed while surfing. Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. Bidoof/Zigzagoon are both available early and work well, while Hawlucha is available a bit later but can learn all the non-water moves. Bibarel was often used in 4th generation since it could learn many HMs, and I used to use Gyarados for Waterfall and Whirlpool. I used to hate needing HMs as a kid because I couldn 't change them after (on my first playthrough of DP I put Cut on my Turtwig and I hated myself), but my recent playthrough (on. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. You all guessed it, it's Bibarel! Bibarel is the most impressive HM Slave of all time. Want to go catch that Deino in ORAS? I hope you have Waterfall, Surf and Fly. I like having one HM slave to hold my crummy moves and the nicer HMs be passed around between my actual team members, but unfortunately I have found that there would appear to be no good HM slaves in gen. . Skarslave. Pokémon Gen V is the first generation of Pokémon since Gen I not to introduce evolutions to previous Pokémon. The power, accuracy and other information listed below is as it was in the respective games. Skarmory's Pretty good. And a. Whirlpool. This gives it plenty of variety when it comes to utility outside of battle. 5 kilograms. The first ds game I remember is diamond so I remember it fondly (played other older ones in a different method). 1-2. I. i got rhyhorn with rock smash and strengh. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. You guys are discussing which pokemon to make an hm slave. Apr 7, 2010. PP Effect % TM01: Mega Punch: 80: 85: 20--A NORMAL-type attack move. In Generation 1, HM moves cannot be deleted once learned. It takes 5 seconds for it to feel pain when under attack. Masatoshitalk 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC) I would like to again disagree with that assertion - the very definition of HM Slave is a pokemon whose purpose is the carriage of HMs. Header Cell - Column 2. Before discussing Pokémon Kalos Crystal, it’s necessary to mention Pokémon Unova Red: a hack that replaces the entire Pokédex in the first-gen games for that of the Unova region. HM slaves ftw. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. Let me give you an example. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Fly. Generation VIII. anyone still playing 2023? 22 posts, 11/21 6:30AM. In Generation III and IV, a Pokémon knowing an HM move cannot be transferred to the next generation unless the HM move is removed (e. The rotom bike felt boring by comparison as it doesn't really involve any pokemon interaction. Both get a lot of critical hits because of their speed. This account has been placed into Purgatory, a timed suspension from posting any further messages on GameFAQs. Types of pokemon in a nuzlocke #3. I'd look into who can learn those. I'm trying to find two pokemon who can learn all of the HMs combined. Dig can be used to escape from caves. Pokemon Gen V is popular but has a broken base. Reply 300zxTwinTurbo •. Check the Bulbagarden home page for up-to-date Pokémon news and discuss it on the forums or in the Bulbagarden Discord server. Best Gen 5 HM Slave? Soronir 12 years ago #1. Red Blue: Its pincers are not only powerful weapons, they are used for balance when walking sideways. Not open for further replies. SANDSHREW has a very dry hide that is extremely tough. Pokemon Ultra Sun. Strength. Hmm cool. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. Two, same reason as the HM's in Hoenn, I try to avoid repeating types on the same team. Do You use HM slaves?. Both of these were thankfully fixed in Gen 2. #1. is easily the most useful HM slave as it can learn every 5th generation HM except for fly. someone who can. Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. r/pokemon • Gen 1 Dark Types. 7 m (5′07″) tall and weighs 50. Overall, I would say either Unfezant or Swanna. Move filters. In Generations 2-3, Dig has 60 base power. Lists of TM, HM, and TR locations. I'm looking for a Pokemon that will preferably learn Cut and Flash in Red/Blue, but I'm not having any luck finding one. Zigzagoon/Linoone every time I play gen 3. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. Slakoth is an amazing hm slave, its actually quite incredible how many HMs and TMs it can learn. Theirs always one HM slave. Another way to avoid carrying an HM slave around is by removing those obstacles in the first place. Both learn Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash. Strength. Egg Moves can only be relearned if the pokemon was bred in gen 6 though. I know, I’m a hypocrite. badpath. Dragonite makes a pretty good hm slave. A flying type would 2x resist fighting, but a normal/flying type takes neutral damage from a fighting type move. Mew is the obvious choice. Trainers need to collect a certain number of Gym Badges in order to qualify for a region's Pokémon League. So if you transfer a pokemon from White/Black with an egg move and unlearn it, you can't get it back. The HM slave. 8. A pink pincer-like mouth with two teeth, stubby forepaws, and a. #11. Only needed twice though. Business, Economics, and Finance. Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. 4M subscribers in the pokemon community. 130. Generation 6; Generation 7; Generation 8; Generation 9. :bidoof: Gyarados - Rock Smash, Waterfall. Fly + Flash. •Waterfall- Needed to get to Victory Road in most games. Accepted Answer. Now, you did say that any Pokemon Gens 1 -. i used him in emerald by acident. Rock Smash is no longer a field move. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. That just leaves HM Flash, HM Cut, and HM Fly. [deleted] • 4 yr. Zapdos. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. Boards. Pokémon Blue. A group of Electric-type Pokémon based on rodents, consisting of Pikachu, Raichu (sometimes omitted), Pichu (sometimes omitted), Plusle, Minun, Pachirisu, Emolga, Dedenne, Togedemaru, Morpeko, Pawmi, Pawmo, and Pawmot. HM slave is a term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is not used for battling, but to provide navigational support through the use of field. PP. I have an Electric Safari: Dedenne, Helioptile, and Luxio. So, your Poliwrath (or Poliwhirl, if you want to save your Water Stone) can carry Whirlpool, Rock Smash. Two, same reason as the HM's in Hoenn, I try to avoid repeating types on the same team. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get to Whirlpool. #1. Who are the good HM Slaves? Rufflet is a good Pokemon to hold Fly, Cut,. Surge, Erika, Koga). It would be interesting to have the option to teach each Pokemon at least one HM. Cut. Design-wise, all of them have electric sacs on their cheeks. You can beat all 16 gyms in whatever order you choose, starting from any town – all without a single HM move. In Generations 2-7, Oddish has a base Friendship value of 70. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. In Generation 1, Krabby has a base Special stat of 25. 0. The egg group of this pokemon is Monster, Water 1. Young. HM mules will typically have three or four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across oceans, or past other. Jump to content. Masatoshitalk 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC) I would like to again disagree with that assertion - the very definition of HM Slave is a pokemon whose purpose is the carriage. Cheats. Tauros and persian are pretty great in gen 1. That was before facing E4 and Cynthia. The gender of this pokemon is 50% male, 50% female. In-game name: Daniel. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four. BtlMaster. HM Fly is useful as it allows you to instantly return to towns you have previously visited. While I was doing that I realized he. News. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. A HM slave is a pokemon that you have on your team in-game so you dont have to teach HMs to your Pokemon. In the core series games. Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. The water ones aren't bad. In every core series Pokémon game except Pokémon Legends: Arceus, trading is necessary to collect all Pokémon. This Pokémon has no moves exclusive to prior evolutions. Total. Reviews. These are the four water type HMs: •Surf- Extremely useful and one of the most important HMs. The difference between a TM and an HM is most pronounced in the earlier games in the series, where TMs were single-use items while HMs could be used an unlimited amount of times after they were obtained, and unlike TMs could not be tossed or sold for money. Typhlosion can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Rock Climb, and (?)Headbutt (?)Topic: Best Gen 5 HM Slaves? (Read 264 times) JCBellsprout. You can play with a full team of six (i. Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen keep the original 5 HMs from Red/Blue, but also contain Rock Smash and Waterfall, which were introduced in Ruby/Sapphire. I usually don't have an HM slave. it's pretty good. ago. The player will eventually need to. Where to find the HMs in X/Y. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. Type. ; Although HM moves cannot be used outside of battle in Orre, Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness has three locations housing puzzles similar to Strength puzzles in other. I dont run from fights so having some easy 30pp cut i can knock wild pokes with on someone and not worry about keeping PP on my important moves for trainer fights is my main way to play. News. The HM slave. Are these B/W's biggest flaws? 7 posts, 9/26 10:11AM. Swanna - HM Surf - Hm Dive - HM Fly. Ash always gets the main bird of. Additionally, the moves contained within. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. Having those 2 pokemon is enough to navigate through the game. About halfway through the game you get an item that uses Rock Smash. In spin-off games: Mystery Dungeon series. Board Topics. Both can learn Dig, surf, strength, i think waterfall and rock smash aswell. This meme points out the hilarious irony of Swampert's buff build yet weakness. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. i know i can replace it but i don't want to do that with any poke on my team since most. Annoyingly, once you get to Kanto you will need at least one HM slave in your party for a few of the gyms, as the entrance to Vermilion Gym is blocked by a cuttable tree, and reaching the volcano where Blaine's gym was relocated requires surf. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. . Not worth all that effort for a HM slave. Typhlosion can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Rock Climb, and (?)Headbutt (?)It's not any fun being pidgeonholed into only having 4/5 real Pokemon because you have 1-2 HM slaves. 12. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Best Gen 5 HM Slave? Soronir 12 years ago #1. i got oddish with cut and flash. Below are all the Pokémon in the Kalos Pokédex with green ticks showing which HMs each can learn. It is 1. Technical Machines. Waste of EXP man, fuck that. It will take a while to get either of these, and its a massize. rkman427 13 years ago #3. Other than that all HM areas are optional. This is especially true if you’re looking for an alternative to the usuals. It's nice not having to have 1 or more HM slaves in your party, or wasting move slots on your good Pokemon, but it also makes exploration feel soulless and boring. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves. And finally by just not having anything similar in Galar. Starting from Generation II, items can be held by Pokémon, allowing indirect trading of holdable items. -Henry Louis Mencken. It learns Cut and Strength as well, but has Surf. Move. . Pokémon Y Friend Code: 4441-9508-9799. So you no longer need to dedicate a move slot to traverse through water, or to clear those pesky obstacles that block your way. Whirlpool. The ideal HM slave learns multiple HM moves for efficient use of party slots. each member of the team gets at least one of the HMs. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in. However, I can’t deny the fact that Haxorus is an objectively better Pokémon than Salamence. The abilities of Skarmory are Keen Eye and Sturdy EV yield. Notify me about new: Guides. HM Slaves are a common practice among the fans of Pokémon; after all, you need someone to use all of those Hidden Machines. A HM slave is a pokemon that you have on your team in-game so you dont have to teach HMs to your Pokemon. Basically, get one of the 3HMers and something else. Yawn - Sleeps 100% but in 2 turns.